From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: Challenge to Kenneth R. Pangborn
Date: 21 Apr 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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>From: webguide@javanet.com
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>If you, indeed, have seen David Moore's military discharge as you claim,
please provide proof by posting the date of said discharge herein.  No
date
shows everyone that you're lying.

 Stacy are yopu a VETERAN? WHich war did you fight in? Which branch? Why
are
you here?

    As to Moore's discharge, I obtained only GENERAL information made
available
for legal purposes from an investigation, I did NOT claim I had actually
seen
his discharge certificate. I did say he obtained a "GENERAL" discharge
for
medical reasons. Which is part of his general files available on anyone
Stacy.
Actually somebody else obtained it and provided me a copy. And the oNLY
reason
I mentioned it was because of HIS claim that I dodge the draft. NOW, for
CHELLENGES<
where's YOUR proof of that? Who do you claim you called and VERIFIED
IT?????

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: David Moore's claims
Date: 18 Apr 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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David Moore has posted this on various newsgroups"
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Pangborn also claims to have served in the Air Force.  But a check of
DoD
public records shows no record of him ever having served in any of the
Armed
Forces.  In my opinion this is a slap in the face to every man or woman
who
ever carried a gun in defense of this country.

    I managed to serve in the Air Force. AFSN  AF 16-631-305, DD-217 on
file
in St. Louis. And available for fax to end the bullshit here from Mr.
Moore.

    Mr. Moore, *MY* Discharge from the Air Force was "HONORABLE UNDER
HONORABLE
CONDITIONS" but I am sure you wouldn't tell THIS assemblage that YOUR
discharge
from the Marine Corps was under conditions LESS than
honorable, now would you?  It might give the folks a peek inside your
head.

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: Vietnam Vets - A Bunch of Druggie Criminals
Date: 05 Oct 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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>From: pmarlin@ionet.net (Perry)
>Newsgroups: soc.veterans

>Check your facts you stupid fuck, lot of us did reup to fix the military  so
idiots like you wouldn't get killed when they served. The only time
Vietnam
Veterans get riled up is when jerks like you share their wisdom  to the
world.
Also be careful with your attitude because the next Vietnam  veteran you
meet
may be a cop, a doctor, fireman or the judge you will  most likely see
some day
because of that attitude of yours.

     David Moore, the author of that tome was a Marine who got the old
heave-ho
for conduct unbecomming.  He's the same WUSS who a few months ago was
bent out
of shape because I commented that I was told he was kicked out of the
Marines.
He threw a hissy fit, demanding that I PROVE I had info anout him. He
demanded
that I post his middle name (Dennis)
and his serial number. Twice I challenged him,
"do you REALLy want me to do that?" Twice he came back calling me a
liar. When
I *did*
post his middle name and his number, he hasn't quit whining since.
Crying like
a baby.

      IN dealing with Mr. Moore's trolls, you gotta remember he is a
bitter you
man who really didn't make the grade in the military.
He had to have his discharge upgraded. A concept that I still have
STRONG
disagreement with. I believe your discharge SHOULD reflect the calibre
of your
service.
When I served, an HONORABLE discharge like mine meant something. It
wasn't a
diploma you could get by WHINING loudly! Yopu had to EARN it. To give it
to a
cretin whose behavior was substandard demeans the service the rest of us
gave
out nation.

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: Tracy--BAD parent!
Date: 09 Sep 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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>From: lcs Mixmaster Remailer <mix@anon.lcs.mit.edu>
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>Tracy bragged to me over the telephone that she allows her children to do
whatever they want--including consumption of alcohol.

    Moore is it true that you were kicked out of the Marine Corps for
being a
guttless coward and RUNNIING from the enemy in Desert Storm? Is it true
you wet
your pants when you heard gunfire 10 miles away and started screaming
for your
MOMMY????? Your behavior on usenet certainly supports those claims. I
only know
what I have heard and what I see from a TOTALLY GUTLESS WONDER!

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re:  K Pangborn and S alexander
Date: 19 Apr 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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>From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
>Newsgroups: alt.psychology

>In Anastasia Alexander's defense, it should be noted that she is the victim of a
cruel hate war which has been waged against her for the past year by
Pangborn.

       Yes,. Mr. Moore,  we can take the word of a man given a Section 8
discharge by the Marines, and who himself was kicked off several
Newsgroups,
and fired from his job for forging
hateful anti-semitic posts attriibuting them to others, as you
tried to do with me, posting ethnic remarks of a derrogatory nature
about
Italians.

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: You Bunch of Old Angry Vets
Date: 05 Oct 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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>From: fathers-rights@dragoncon.net
>Newsgroups: soc.veterans

>I *am* this Moore that has been referred to.  To shed some light on that
issue....there is a flamer by the name of Ken Pangborn.  He's been
following me
to every newsgroup I post in, and attacking me verbally in these groups,
for
about nine months now.  Because of this, I
occasionally use anonymous remailers.  For this reason, Ken concludes
that I'm
the only person who has ever used remailers, and that every
post from a remailer must be from me.

   Following YOU into WHAT newsgroups dickless? Milwaukee General? Here?
GE
REAL you little FAIRY!  YOU have been the net stalker and the whole net
KNOWS
it. You've been kicked off ISP afte ISP for your bullshit you LOSER!

   Now let's cut thropught he shit here.

>From: fathers-rights@dragoncon.net
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n   Hey dickhead, you want people to beleiev you are posting openly and
NOT Mr.
Anonymous???? You think because you use the PHONEY Dragoncon ISP name
that
people will miss THIS little addendum in the headers DICKLESS???

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     Jesus Moore, you are one brainless fuck!
Do you thinks folks will MISS that?  SOme will.

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   Not NOW, however!

>He has also been spreading lies about the character of my service in the
Marine Corps.  Rest assured that he knows nothing about my service
record.

   I don't know all that much. Just that you were thrown out. And that
was
verified by a guy who had the misfortune to be in your same command
structure.
He didn't think much of you. Seems that that was a pretty general
sentiment
according to what I was told by the Sergeant.

>As part of his campaign of harassment against me, he has been spreading lies
that I was dishonorably discharged.

    No David, that is NOT what I said. I said you were discharged under
conditions OTHER than honorable. BIG DIFFERENCE. And I stated that it
was under
conditions SIMILAR to a Section 8.  Not under the mental disability
section. I
also said you had your discharge UPGRADED, which is the information I
was
given.

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: SPECIAL REPORT
Date: 15 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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>
>I never said any such thing.  YOU said that there was a restraining order,
which says that I am to stay 1000 miles away from my child.  And
you have yet to produce any such thing.  Nor will you have any success
in doing
so, because there simply is no such thing.  Ken Pangborn is a liar.

  Playing Slick Willie with me David? The 1,000 miles was hyperbole. But
yoyu
WERE hit with a restraining order, and you ADMITTED it..

>  First I was a "Section 8" (mentally incompetent).

  Nope David, I said the discharge was "akin" to a section 8, a
discharge for
the "convinience of the corps" due to your off base misconduct with your
wife.
You grab on whatever words you like. Your conduct was unbecomming for
that of a
Marine!

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From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: STACY ALEXANDER TELLS MOMMY AGAIN
Date: 21 Apr 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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    Now, Mr. Moore, you RANTED that I could not know the things about
you I
posted in reply to YOUR allegation about MY military service. And you
"DEMANDED" that I "PROVE" that
I had the information. SO I did!

     NOW, while we are at it, let's handle just ONE of the LIES
in your little rant above. I did NOT say you got a "dishonorable
discharge" from the Marines. I said it was a GENERAL for "medical"
reasons, and
put the "SECTION * in with a smiley"
to tweak your insipid ass!

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From: pangk@aol.com
Subject: Responding to a SOCIOPATH from Bolingbrook
Date: 09 Jul 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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In article <6o0o3g$e1$1@basement.replay.com>,
  nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
 

> Associate Professor Lev Dermer was asked by Ken Pangborn to post the article above so that we would be impressed by his  being able to lie to someone from his ole alma mater.

  Pretty hefty allegation there David. Got omething beside your MOUTH to
back
up your claim he is lying?

> Ken just happened to forget to mention to his pal that he was banned from
posting by AOl because of his own net abuse.

  Yeah, I know. You've been making that claim now for nine months, and
Spazzy
has been making it for two years. Why is it that YOU keep going through
ISP's
like most people go through clean pairs of socks and *I* am STILL on AOL
clown?  Gee and I learn yesterday that your gal Spazzy was AGAIN barred
from
Dejanews. Why don't YOU explain that?

> He also forgot to mention that he had contacted the employer of Anastasia Alexander's husband to try to get him fired over the fact that Stacy posted por-choice articles on Usenet in opposition to Ken Pangborn's B.S.

  Nope. NOT TRUE! Another one of your PARANOID DELUSIONS! I have told
her I
did as a warning that two COULD play the game SHE plays! Didn't work
though.
Threats NEVER work with a sociopath.

> He also failed to mention that he is under investigation for his abuse by the ASTC, the police and by the Florida State Bar Association.

  No HE didn't forget to tell anything. While YOU have BOMBARDED both
organizations with literally thousands of pages of your raging bullshit,
BOTH
have given them the attention they were due and SHREDDED them for paper
recycling. BTW, you and Spazzy are both now in the bit bucket at dozens
of
official locations as "WHACKOS."

> Another thing that Ken Pangborn didn't mention to the kindly associate professor when he, like a coward, went squealing and whining to ask if he's post in  his defense is that he posted a lot of false information about David Moore online...things like Dave's alleged dishonorable discharge from the military, things  saying that Dave had beaten his wife.

  TRY, David, TRY to get it accurate. I posted that you were cashiered
from
the Maris and given a GENERAL Discharge that was later upgraded to an
Honorable, for the convinience of the service. As to the SPOUSE ABUSE,
that
came from PUBLIC RECORDS bub! Your divorce in 29 Palms California. BTW,
in
you making a STINK about it, I hear the file has become the most popular
file
in courthouse history with over 1900 people calling to verify the
contents.
You are a HIT David. YOU are the IDIOT who puts his dirty linen in
public.

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